Belarusian th Russian culture speak exaggerated tones

Not so long ago in Minsk, was published the next issue of the anthology of contemporary Belarusian culture "p ART isan". The main theme of the issue — the war. War or dialogue occurs between colors inflated Belarusian and Russian cultures? Do victims in this war-dialogue? What justification is there for the fact that the Belarusian culture was able to favorites? On this and other — in an interview with Maxim Zhbankov.
Michas Scoble: "Maxim, Belarus every morning wakes up and goes to sleep every night under the choir singing" We Belarusians — peaceful people … "Twice a day repeated the spell. Sown rose. Main value of human Commonwealth becomes:" If only there was no war. "So why are you in the" p ART isane "decided to study specifically the war?"
Maxim Zhbankov: "There will certainly need to clarify that when we did the room almanac dedicated war, we did not mean any armed conflict, riots, etc. We mean first war of cultures, in other words a certain conflict of content, conflict approaches to reality. And they agree, have a seat and they so or otherwise affect every one of us. ‘Cause — there prepyadstviya, there are conflicts, if you like — there is a war of cultures. "
Scoble: "The war of cultures — this first war of the peoples, as the culture of the nations produce. Why culture as ethnic group, from time to time is not enough current space, and she begins expansion?"
Zhbankov: "Here I completely disagree with you. I do not venture to say that ethnic groups certainly aggressive when something is missing. Faster is the case in other ways. On the one hand, we have the usual or abnormal relations of ethnic groups — peaceful or military. On the other hand, we have cultural communication, we have a dialogue of cultures. And these two types of ethnic relations are not necessarily tightly linked. Since there is no cultural war expansion when first solved economically and political difficulties. But we can have a cultural intervention in times of peace, as we look at the case of the expansion of American culture. Because, apparently, the question is not what is missing ethnos. question is whether ethnic groups are able to maintain constructive interaction with other cultures, with other cultural trends. And here arises a completely different situation. If culture is strong, it uses external effects for their own purposes and rebuilding its essence. If culture weak, it simply disappears. "
Scoble: "If we talk about the culture war — Belarusian and Russian. Me, it seems that the part of — this is one war, and from Belarus — other. For these first war conducted various types of guns. Relatively speaking, for one army Ural factory stamped rifles and guns, for the second — Krakow th Petersburg Publishing released "Dudka Belarus" and "flute." I mean books and Bogushevich Kupala. And how effective "culture struggle" in true colonial war? "
Zhbankov: "If we are talking about the war with the Russian culture, it is in no way a war against Joseph Brodsky, Tolstoy or Yuri Shevchuk. We treat them with respect. Fact, that our ability to restore the state of the Belarusian culture are simply incompatible with the technological abilities of Russian culture. We’re obviously lagging behind. If one side stack of TV channels, and on the other — Adam Globus or Khadanovich Andrew, of course, these things are not comparable. But I do not agree that we will certainly lose this war, or we lose the initiative. Although the initiative we can, and we lose … But the point is not to possess technologies. In the culture war more significant — is the restoration of certain concepts, certain approaches to things. And that’s what we do not have enough first! We have many professional creators, but if this creator tomorrow to technologies like Russian, I, unfortunately, am sure all the same would not have been equal in importance wave exposure. Since we exist separately. We do not have a distinctive, rebuilt from the public spectacle of cultural space. That is the main problem. "
Scoble: "In Polish poet Adam Zagaevskaga a poem" Our homeland comes to Poland "dedicated just Brodsky you mentioned. Let’s listen to a piece of it in translation It Chikvin.
Through the fields and beyond, forests and villages, vanities Cavalry Army, hiking, horse looking surprised, move the cannon, men go, old warriors, kids, vosled sled tent, cab, victory, sailing ships, rafts, pontoons, boats and ships, and gas chambers, balloons flying, rockets, bombaskidalniki, mortar shells they hiss prestigious arias heard cries whipping coolness ordered songs move air as iron notes, pull yurts, tents, pull the rope, shaking linen top banners, whispering prayers pope loyalists and month also comes in metallic campaign, tanks go, daggers, sabers move they hiss Katyusha as Seconds comet sons come steppe, the descendants of Asia, limps Suvorov, yellowish Volga flows, raging rivers of Siberia, camels striding slowly, lost in thought, followed by school , teachers, poets, and language, as glaciers, poke wood manor, shelves go division cavalry armies, hiking, Our homeland comes to Poland, plucking leaves, cloth and Indian summer network tendon contract boundaries, friendship, bridges, communication , thread, rope with half wet laundry, gate, associations, bandages, aorta, and the future hope, bonfires decomposes, muddy untainted water, destroys churches, town halls and libraries Our homeland comes to my existence, our homeland comes to my mind, in a poem Our homeland has comes.
This complete phantasmagoric invasion … Maxim, the years of independence we have a real border with Poland, Lithuania and Ukraine. Later, before will demarkavanaya and the border with Russia. How to build a border between cultures? Striped barrier, even white-red-white will not help here … "
Zhbankov: "Of course, does not help. Moreover, I believe that no matter what artificial attempt to build border between cultures is nonsense and provocation. Since, as correctly saw Pavel Morozov, the boundaries between cultures in a formal sense just can not be. Border there where a culture loses its impact. And in this sense, we, Belarusians as a civilization that exists at the crossroads, at the crossroads of European routes, we can not protect itself from other cultural influences. All samples dissociate themselves I believe harmful. Yuri Lotman in time wrote that any culture exists and develops on the line, right at the crossroads of cultural meanings, programs, etc. In other words, that culture lived, it must exist in the format of the dialogue with other cultures. In another she just die. So do not be afraid of dialogue. But just do not need to lose yourself. No need to hide from the Russian, Polish or even whatever culture! It is necessary to develop, based on the need to rebuild its influence. "
Scoble: "You have twice used the word" dialogue "uniformly moving away from the word" war. "Can we call it the status of the dialogue that exists between the Belarusian and Russian cultures?"
Zhbankov: "It is impossible to deny the usual mental contacts, you need to treat those quiet cultural texts that are in. Why should we renounce them from? Another thing — the Russian show business. If there is a question of power, and show business — is also a power , here with Russia on equal unreal read. Here she is, of course, pushes us. culture war begins when they are in a situation of misunderstanding. Andrei Rosinskiy in "p ART isane" pointed out that "war of cultures — it is a dialogue of cultures on the inflated tones. "Now in its relations with Russia, we have specifically this situation."
Scoble: "The peculiarity of at least some of the war in Belarus that Belarusians usually waging war on both sides of the front. We neither war — that civilian.
How is anecdotal case is come," veteran "in the school and enthusiasm knows, he brought a child Rockets gunners, and those he thanked: "Danke" … Do you think there is a role than the Belarusians in the war on the side of someone else’s culture? "
Zhbankov: "If the question of the Russian cultural figures who have positioned themselves as a part of Russian culture, it seems to me that it is in fact — question their conscience and their personal choice. I am against the full mobilization of culture, albeit under my beloved white-red- white flag. Any mobilization — this pressure is coercion. And creativity and some political or ideological coercion fundamentally incompatible. ‘Cause worth these people (I, by the way, they do not referee) regarded as victims of a culture war. This is not the collaborators, those who "fell victim to the" Russian colonial cultural pressure. . "
Scoble: "You do not want to mobilize culture under white-red-white flag … But this mobilization occurs — under the flag of red and green. And some of the cultural figures have climbed into the trench, ready to shoot in the direction you utter . How should behave Culture in the criteria for the "mobilization"? "
Zhbankov: "Everyone must decide for himself. In my opinion, a similar mobilization — a contract with Satan. It may bring some temporary dividends in the form of the Presidential Award, etc. But on the other hand, it does not pass without any for traces of the creator. Any custom work — is a betrayal, but not the country, and his own talent. "
Scoble: "In the political or even geopolitical war Belarus won: the maps of the world appeared country Belarus. And would it be able to favorites Belarusian culture? Will the war it with stronger cultures?"
Zhbankov: "Belarusian culture, like the Belarusian statehood, in a sense, defeated. That" p ART isan "- what is not an excuse for such statements? On this day, we have a fully competitive at the European level, the creators. And take that theater" Inzhest "Glory Inozemtseva. This luxury project, unjustly unknown in our country. We have beautiful musical projects. For example, we have the DJ Euro level Berzhanin Lavra. By the way, it mixes sounded during the last concert of "The Rolling Stones" in Warsaw. We have severe intellectuals. Say logic Andrew Schumann did not so long ago in the United States published a book — together with South American logic. This is also part of the Belarusian culture, so it is something that reflects the soul of the country. Because — there are results, eat the fruit. But the Belarusian culture, in my opinion, overcome when she finishes afraid of other cultures, if it is to treat them as an equal. Then it will begin a regular dialogue, but it must begin with respect to the Belarusians themselves for themselves. "

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