Izvestia: Vladimir Alexandrovich, 22 trillion — that's a lot or not much, so an ambitious rearmament program from the army?
Vladimir Popovkin: We really planned a large-scale set of activities within the framework of the state program of armaments for 2011-2020. Acknowledged that the need for modern weapons and military equipment to satisfy these measures sufficient enough quantities. Their composition and content of the tasks on the LG 2020 is structured and optimized strictly within the limits of the allocated funding.
and: President Dmitry Medvedev put the puzzle: the end of 2015 fraction of the cost of maintenance and the purchase of new weapons should be 70% (at the moment — 30%). And by the year 2020 one hundred percent to equip the army with modern standards of weapons and military equipment. How to solve this puzzle?
Popovkin: For the purposes of planning and development of the Armed Forces characteristics of the relation bit of the cost of the equipment and have no independent value. They only reflect one of the features of the structure of the military budget. If you compare the predictable (considering measures to reform and reduce the number of) the need for financial resources for the maintenance and funds for rearmament of the army and navy, the current time, these needs are met by a bit more than half.
These criteria required to achieve the proportions of the budget is dependent on the rate of development of the economy and thus the volume of funds allocated for upgrading. In GPV-2020 core value given to the procurement of complex sverhtehnologichny samples. It is more than 70% of the applets. Shred batch purchases of modern and promising samples in the latest LG above those of the LG-2015 by 15-20%. So it will be updated appliances.
and: If we talk about values, they will not change during the implementation of programs from the arms? Though the front of almost nine years …
Popovkin: The program of arms is a complex of activities agreed on the objectives, tasks, development fronts, resources and terms of performance in maintaining a desired level of equipping the Armed Forces with modern weapons, military and special equipment (AMSE). The program is linked to the requirements of a new kind of army and those puzzles that it will face in the future. It takes into account the ability of allocating state money is needed for the production industry volumes required AMSE. This includes taking into account the availability of money, production and other risks of execution as may be specified in the annual Municipal affirming defense order (SDO). To monitor the implementation of SAP once it has developed and adopted a system of indicators motivated. Monitoring their implementation will allow in this case will change the level of funding of Gozan, in time to correct the ongoing efforts to equip the armed forces.
That after all of the values that they, I think, will also remain unchanged. For us, this first equilibrium development of strategic weapons, a complete supply of advanced and promising types of weapons (first in the military units continued readiness), the establishment of basic information and control systems to ensure the use of high-precision weapons. In addition, the creation of scientific and technological potential and ensuring the development of new systems and armaments, maintenance of the fleet of weapons in combat-ready condition.
and All is fine. But it is clear: none of its previous weapons programs has not been made absolutely. Do not expect a "future" and the current program working?
Popovkin: In the development of the modern state armaments program, we have taken into account the error of previous programs. Namely, that the main fraction of the financing was assumed for the second five-year 10-year-old applets. At this point, control of the country has decided to contribute to the state program in the first five years, in other words, before 2015, 700 billion rubles for defense companies, so that they could enter into contracts in the period after 2015. They need so that they could take the necessary loans from banks. So, I think, no values, neither the scheme of financing their development over time, not only will not change, and in financial terms will not be affected.
and: What percentage of a modern Russian army and an old technique? In which period may be to increase the share of modern weapons to 70%?
Popovkin: Despite the high level of equipment of the main types of weapons, most of which are in the military sample of date. Shred modern in the park is about 20% of the strategic nuclear forces and does not exceed 10% for general purpose forces. For comparison: in the armies of the leading zabugornyh of this fraction is 30-50%.
This state park weapons based on the fact that since the 1990's, he actually has not been updated. The volume of state orders were small, and the weapon system was maintained in combat-ready condition by repairing. Almost until 2007 bought only the standards of strategic weapons and their means of support.
In recent years, we have been able to reverse the situation with the procurement of arms. At the current time, given the disposition of weapons development in the major countries of the world, the experience of its implementation in wars and armed conflicts of the Armed Forces is optimized for the tasks that will address species (kinds) of troops in 2020. Characteristics of technical equipment of the Armed Forces worked in the study GPV-2020. The planned pace and volume of purchases of complex designs will bring the finishing features updates on basic nomenclature of arms to the level of 70% by 2020.
and: Plans of principle, but there is a perception that the Russian defense industry does not digest them. MIC headed for the limit of their own abilities — industrial base is aging, not enough capacity, there is no training. With all of this grows the volume of orders zabugornyh …
Popovkin: Exports really grows. There are prepyadstviya associated with technological rearmament of enterprises. Ministry of Industry is already developing a program from the federal motivated "Development of the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation for 2011-2020." In its draft plan to substantially raise the technological level of production companies defense, to increase its compactness and willingness to Innovative activity. The basis for this is its linkage between the applets to the activities of the LG 2020 on the nomenclature, the amount and terms of the creation of models of arms and military equipment. So, I think, and here we will succeed.
I: And as long as this issue is resolved, you will continue to take equipment abroad?
Popovkin: We are not interested in purchasing any foreign weapons and military equipment. Such purchases are made only in order to eliminate the backlog of the Russian military-industrial complex in a number of areas. If it is not in our industry, why this should not be a problem in the military? This also applies to drones and heavy warships, namely the helicopter and sniper weapons for special forces. Believe me, taking all decisions on the import of weapons precedes all-encompassing military and economic evaluation of the need for such decisions. There is always important balance of political, military-technical and economic intere
and: What the Defense Ministry is preparing a proposal in the framework of the orders of the president to develop a stand-alone agency structure in order and support the breakthrough, high-risk research and development?
Popovkin: For us, the creation of the modern structure of the procurement and maintenance of breakthrough developments such as the U.S. DARPA is very topical task. It requires a comprehensive and balanced approach study because the results of high-risk research and development are needed not only for the creation of promising arms, and Innovative products for civilian purpose.
In our opinion, a similar structure must possess a flexible state to accumulate the production of many branches of science and technology, to create conditions for competition at the level of thoughts and concepts. The main kind of activity should be the study of new scientific theories with a view to their application in the field of defense.
At the same time, the creation of the Interagency segregated structure reclaims the development of a normative legal basis of its functioning. First need a precise order of interaction with the federal authorities, defense organizations, Russian Academy of Sciences, Higher Education and Research Department of the Ministry of Defense, Innovative small businesses and even individuals. Ultimately, the implementation of such a project can be one of the criteria to ensure rapid adoption of new technologies in the standards of weapons.
What will the Armed Forces
For the period up to 2020 is planned radical renewal of the fleet of aircraft the Air Force. For this the purchase of more than 600 aircraft: Su-34, Su-35S, the PAK FA, MiG-35s, promising attack aircraft Su-25SM, aircraft, military transport aircraft An-70, Il-76MD-90A helicopters and about 1000 different purposes: the Mi-26, Mi-8MVT-5, Mi-8AMTSh, Ka-52, Mi-28nm.
In the area of air defense troops supplied Division 4 new air defense missile systems S-400 "Triumph". That number was enough to equip the 1st anti-aircraft missile regiment. In the program of weapons to the Ministry of Defense in 2020 expects to equip 28-400 air defense missile regiments. Currently being developed mobile multi-purpose anti-aircraft missile system to conduct remote capabilities for high-altitude interception of ballistic targets — C-500. Its development is planned to finish in 2013, and from 2015 to begin serial supplies to the troops. Total military plans to get more than 10 battalions of S-500.
For the Navy to buy about 100 ships, including 20 submarines, 35 corvettes, 15 frigates and support vessels. In addition, projects are being worked latest multipurpose nuclear submarine of the fifth-generation destroyer. The main armament of these ships will be unified ship missile complex "Caliber", which includes both anti-ship cruise missiles 3M 54, and long-range cruise missiles 3M 14 for ground attack enemy targets. Scheduled to work on the creation of ship missile complex "Zircon-S" with a hypersonic missile.
As part of the reconnaissance and communications major events GPV-2020 related to the implementation of the 2-big projects — equipping the Army brigades and airborne troops by one control system at the tactical level, and the creation of information and control systems to ensure the implementation of high-precision weapons.
By means of combat equipment troops formed interdepartmental encompassing motivated programm. Values here are the development of a modular multi-purpose personal gear and equipment close combat.