Former presidential candidate Vital Rymasheuski, released recently on bail, made a number of statements that have wide public resonance. In turn, the politician complained that his words had been wrongly filed and misinterpreted. We appealed to him to lay out his position.
Drakakhrust: Vitaly, what do you think, why you changed the sentence, as others involved in the case of the riots — no?
Rymashevski: At the moment I can only speculate about it. Frankly, I expected the release me before, I would not even make a charge. I knew that all my actions are recorded on video cameras of independent journalists, foreign journalists and special services. When I was charged, I realized that not everything is so simple in my case, and perhaps in spite of the evidence of my actions, I will be punished.
Drakakhrust: You interpret the extent of your guilt over your actions on the square. But, let's say, the city Liabedzka and Fyaduta all out there physically, but have nevertheless been brought to justice. Perhaps, the responsibility is not only due to the actions of the square?
Rymashevski: Probably. Continue searches among our activists know in Gomel bursting through the door to Constantine Zhukovsky. I know that the actions of these people in the square were not aggressive. We can only make some judgments. I fear that the situation may result in the deterioration of the democratic forces and independent journalists. May end disastrously for Belarus and the entire democratic movement.
Drakakhrust: You wrote a letter from prison, Alexander Lukashenko. For you were doing some sort of pressure that you have written?
Rymashevski: All questions related to this circumstance, I, unfortunately, now I can not answer. I did not want to make any comments to the press conference. But journalists "Nasha Niva" was persuaded to drive up and say a few words to the announcement of the new number. I gave them some very moderate comments. After that, I was summoned to the KGB, allegedly for I was handed a copy of the decision to change the measure of restraint. And there with me was quite specific conversation: I was told that I can not go out at this point, and I do not give a press conference.
If I thought that the press conference could materially affect the situation, I would have had, despite the ban. I'm sorry that gave comments to the press conference. I see that my words out of context, are written "fried" headlines. Journalists same Pankovets of "Nasha Niva", does not take the call and take care of my comment, when writing about my statements, but simply makes a reprint. I would like to urge journalists to justice in this situation and would have asked not to take phrases out of context.
Drakakhrust: Vitaly, I still want to go back to the letter Lukashenko. You wrote it. Maybe its content — it is a mystery investigation and you sit when you tell about it. But the question is — did the pressure on you that you have written, or you wrote it voluntarily?
Rymashevski: Question about the letter, I shall leave a comment.
Drakakhrust: How do you assess the statements of Yaroslav Romanchuk and Gregory Kastusiou that were raised by BT?
Rymashevski: I have heard statements Romanchuk and Kastusiou in the chamber at the time was still working television, before I was called in for questioning. This was a major blow to all who are in custody. I believe that if someone even said that he was forced to make this statement under pressure, it would be logical to ask forgiveness from all those whose names were announced, all those people who are in prison and heard the statements.
Drakakhrust: Vitaly, you personally had a plan of action in the Square, which way you were going to "return the Belarusians right to free elections"? To what extent are your plans to knit with those of the other candidates?
Rymashevski: I want to say about the results of the Square. About the return of the right to free elections — one of the important steps was to be the non-recognition of the election. Those goals that put — they are achieved. But we never set out to isolate Belarus from Europe. This goal was not until the 19th or 19th. These were the goals of others. And we are very tough for the elections arguing with these people. Now it may happen, that will decide the fate of Belarus Europe together with Russia without us. This can result in more catastrophic than the results of the events of the 19th of December. This can not be allowed to happen. When I was released, I was struck by two things. The level of self-organization of people, the level of solidarity and courage of the people. This hope for Belarus. I said it during the campaign. Unfortunately, sometimes I had little faith in these people, I did not expect that solidarity is even greater than in 2006. In this — the way not only in the fight for free elections, but also to a better life for the Belarusian people. This way we were going to go.
Drakakhrust: You said that the purpose of the area has been achieved in the form of non-recognition ….
Rymashevski: No. It was not the purpose of the Plaza. It was one of the goals that were set in the fight for free elections. Was it achieved the goal area — it's show time. The purpose of the Plaza — is the strengthening of solidarity, the spirit of the struggle for Belarus. I want to reiterate what I said in the Square from the podium: "We — one people." Maybe now, for some of my words will sound radical and treacherous. Fighting for Belarus — a struggle with love and solidarity, not hate.
Drakakhrust: Objectives Areas that have been achieved — not too high a price was paid for them?
Rymashevski: Absolutely inflated price. As I approached the door of the House of Government to protect these unfortunate doors of thugs, I was the one feeling — that tomorrow I will sling mud all independent media, and some who had served 15 days and will celebrate as a hero. But I found that you can not pay such a price, even for the highest goal — beating people. I could not imagine myself in the Square, it will end the KGB jail and so cruel actions.
Drakakhrust: That you did not expect. And then waiting for — that razbyazhytstsa riot police, and its director recognizes the government of national salvation?
Rymashevski: You think I'm stupid? I expected it to be overclocking the people who had gathered at the door of being arrested for 10-15 days. And this reaction, which was, I think, was not expecting anyone. Otherwise I would have acted differently.
Drakakhrust: And now — about the unknown "for unwanted pet owners," do not you named the new and "old-new" opposition leaders. You said:
"At home in the apartment, sometimes live is not very desirable for animal owners. Normally, when owners of the house, they're hiding. And when the owners go out of the room
, they get out of all the cracks are beginning to host tables in the kitchen, to act as hosts. And I'm watching, unfortunately, it is. in the ranks of the Belarusian opposition leaders are new or "new-old" leaders who behave this way. can not hide behind words of solidarity and avoid shit. Because it is even lower than the political prostitution. "
What and whose appeals for solidarity did you mean by which hides something "worse political prostitution"?
Rymashevski: About the first thing that struck me when I was released, I said — it's a decent human behavior. And the second thing that struck me — this is the situation in the opposition. And I ask this way — sometimes live in an apartment unwanted animals. When owners go out of the room, out of the apartment, and now many of the leaders came out of this "room", which is called the political space not on their own, these animals start to get out from all angles and hosting, feeling hosts. This way, I came when I saw the behavior of old-new leader of the opposition. I said no calls for unity and solidarity should not obscure shit that happens. I am convinced that all the leaders who are in prison, would be opposed to them or to the Belarusian opposition was represented by people who are now trying to represent it. You see what statements were made Monday, Dec. 20. You only talked about Romanchuk. But let's be honest, look who has made similar statements.
Drakakhrust: You mean Milinkevich?
Rymashevski: I will not name names, you do them all well know and understand. Change the situation in the country is possible only when we become different if we act differently. And if we just hide behind the fine words, it will not change anything. If these words will be hidden desire to be first, and let the bones of other people, none of this will change. Yes, we must be united, but it is necessary for everyone to know their place and was responsible for his actions, which he did long before the 19th, 19th and after the 19th. If we do not repent, nothing will. I am ready to take responsibility for their actions. I see that in many ways my fault.
Drakakhrust: Vitaly, you use strong language, although it can compare and bad, but all the same people with the animals. And do not say whom you mean.
Rymashevski: This image is. We, the leader must also be worthy of the people we seek to represent. It is for the leaders and in power, and in the opposition. We need solidarity and repentance. But they should be based on honesty. Here is carried in the header of my words about the meeting with Lukashenko. It is not important who you meet, what matters is what happens. If we are talking about protecting the people of solidarity, so let's show solidarity and defend, not PR and use the situation to get to the top.
Drakakhrust: I just for your understanding: these "undesirable for animal owners" — they belong to one people, of whom you spoke?
Rymashevski: Of course, belong. People with animals I did not compare. And this is just an image of what is happening, not what I call someone or that the animal name. I will tell you about Colonel Evseeva. On the Square, I called from the platform to guide the police came and stopped the beating of innocent people. This colonel Evseev really stepped up and helped bring people to the stands. He offered me, but I said that we must first reduce the other. He saw to it that these people are not beaten. And the Colonel's Evseev the next day personally beat down a journalist. In each of us, including me, can be both good and bad things. And when I say something, maybe annoying thing is the desire not to offend, but to call for repentance. The path to repentance — it is not a cross on the person, and the ability to do things differently.