His view on the meaning and implications of the terrorist explosion in Minsk subway, we were asked to lay out the writer Svetlana Aleksievich. She's talked to Yuri Drakakhrust.
Kar.: In your opinion, what conclusions follow from the fact that in Belarus came real terrorism?
Aleksievich: We can now say that we, too, could not sit on zavalintsy. In one of the best Bykov's novel "The Sign of Misfortune" hero thinks peresyadte war on the farm. And ends with the war it tightens and he is killed along with his family. So here: those of order and stability that we have talked so much about which our government is saying, can not withstand the global world in which something happens to a man. Lost the meaning of life, love and work. The man remained in the void, with nothing, face to face with death.
Some people ideologically engaged in the destruction of their own kind. But the worst — that we are in the hands of a lone. It seems that these will be more — those that can not withstand the pressure of the world.
Kar.: But if it is correct version of the investigation can here the words of inclusion in a global world is not quite appropriate? Just a man with mental disabilities, but with good technical skills. Nobody is immune.
Aleksievich: Today the government takes action that may result from its philosophy: you have to push, to force everyone to stop and it will stop. This course is taken after the election, a course on force for control of the company. It is said that the need to question the opposition of those who think otherwise, they say, they have that in the air a microbe destructive ideas. But this microbe — in the air, not only in Belarus, it is in the air all over the world.
Threats to the president reminded me of my experience when I was in the area shortly after the Chernobyl explosion. And there around the reactor a lot of people running around with guns. Utter helplessness of man before the new challenge. Now something similar is happening in Belarus. It seems that if all intimidated, all control … Yes, not all control. How do you supervise the reclusive maniac?
Terrorism can be countered only ideas, but the ideas in the world today do not. Once stopped working strong ideas of socialism, fascism, which, even by force and blood, could unite the nation, today the man alone. And modern man-made world is a protest. People with weak minded looking for such forms of self-realization. It seems to me that all powerless before this call. This is not only our problem.
And today when I read that, they say, Lukashenko blew … Bad that people think that this could make the power. I do not think that our peasant mentality capable of such things, are we on that below — the same people, this is unlikely. We just joined this global destructive process.
Kar.: You've started a conversation about the public reaction to the explosion. There have been several automatic reactions just after it. Part reacted immediately (it was clear at least on the Internet) is power, Lukashenko is, and to think more about. And the part of the authorities, we have heard the argument that an explosion in 2008 and the events of 19 December, and the currency crisis, and the current attack — all the links of one chain, surrounded by enemies. All this was said as soon as it became aware of the attack. What does such an automatic reaction of some and the others?
Aleksievich: It means that we are people of the flat world. We came out of the world of totalitarian and authoritarian were in the world. Black — white, white — red … Recognize that the world is more complex than the relationship Lukashenka and the opposition — it is for many people a big job. They are again ready to delegate the responsibility for what happens to one person. Especially because the whole system is closed by one person. He attributed all the best and the worst.
This shows the inability to think independently. The world is much more complex, especially the modern world. We locked ourselves in the Belarusian capsule and sit in it nyavylazna. And it seems that the world — this is our relationship with our president. It speaks about intellectual helplessness and power, and the opposition, and the public.
Kar.: Many people — and Belarusians and foreigners — have noted that in a situation of this call Belarusian society has demonstrated a high level of solidarity and mutual aid: the taxi drivers drove people for free, there were queues to donate blood. You agree that, despite the nyazvyklasts call, the Belarusian society has demonstrated its strength?
Aleksievich: Something similar happened in Japan. Delighted the way they conducted themselves in this terrible time. There was looting, even machines with soda and chocolate nobody touched. I was in Japan and saw that the people feel a whole.
And when I heard and read about what was happening in our society these days, I thought it was quite unlike what happened after the terrorist attacks in Russia.
I realized that Belarus is still living the Soviet people. We always talk about it with a minus sign. But he had a lot of advantages. I believe that this, plus our peasant mentality, have played a role. Was this Soviet man who could sacrifice himself for the sake of another person. And could sit in the corner, did nothing for the other, but could do and what our people and demonstrated.
We needlessly hurry to part with our values, which are turned out. People can not survive alone, you need to feel themselves as one nation, as one people.
There were facts that were impressive. If a woman is called a cab, saying that she had a child does not respond to the phone. And the taxi driver drove her and took the money. This is something that we need to value in itself.
These power moves, which applies power, they are very dangerous in that, instead of one people will be two. During such events shows that the people — it's not what they said about both the government and the opposition. This is a great Soviet people, which I love.
Kar.: However, you once wrote that we need to overcome our culture of death, our ability and inability to die just to live and enjoy life. But such a situation suggests that forget this experience simply does not work.
Aleksievich: Just in today's world, the line between war and peace erased.
Terrorism is completely destroys the traditional way of the world. I was in Israel, where people are living on anti-depressants. All the time. If you just let the fear in yourself — you are lost, you have to leave. Otherwise you're not able to stand. This is now and we are nowhere on it does not go. You can not live a single island, even though we put the machine guns and rockets along the border.
And these qualities of our
people — the ability to survive, solidarity, courage to live, unfortunately they are needed again.
The world is not getting better as we romantically believed 20 years ago, during the restructuring. That light failed, and in a certain sense, we are ready.
In my new book is the story of the mother whose daughter became disabled after the terrorist attacks in the Moscow subway. And she said — I'm really trying not to become embittered, but I failed.
I saw it myself in a Moscow court, as the children play in the terrorists. And willingly want to be terrorists, no one — not victims. This game of terrorists is part of our life.
In our world, to replace the Humanitarian man is a political person. All humanitarian entrusted to the church, which deals with this is not the best way, and is engaged in the dress code, homosexuals and who knows what else. Political and rational person would not survive in the modern world, will survive only humanitarian people. And atomised people will not survive.
Since our life that we have left in the past, and we have something to take to the road. I'm not saying that Stalin's camps — that's good. But if you constantly live, as in war, there is a sense of human brotherhood, neighborliness — and it does not need to lose for the sake of a Mercedes and a trip to the Canary Islands. Freedom is more complex than we thought.