People: To put the politicians want, but not those who are now on trial

Among the topics that will be discussed today:

"Who should and who should not be put in jail?" The survey on the streets of Gomel.

World-renowned scientist Boris Kit sent postcards "hartyytsam" — a political prisoner Andrei Sannikov, Dmitry Bondarenko and Ales Atroshchenkovym.

"It is encouraging that over the area constantly circling seagulls." Ales Atroschankau about their experiences in the Vitebsk colony.

"Let Siberia, but not terrible prison on the Berezina." From the history of Bobruisk prison.

How to maintain the health of those with whom bullied power. Tips Dr. Irina Bogdanova.

"Is it worth it to put for politics?"

The survey on the streets of Gomel was made on Saturday when in Minsk, the court Partyzansky, passes sentence of ex-presidential candidate, the political prisoner Andrei Sannikov and some other suspects in the case on December 19. Gomel residents expressed their views on the topic — who should and who should not be put in prison.

Woman: "In prison, apparently, it is necessary — all sorts of criminals, murderers. During the policy, I would put no more. Suppose discuss openly, let the people speak out as they like. Kontrargumenty let the lead. Naturally, when they cross the border, some military action commit then there is a different story. "

Man: "For murder, larceny. During the policy, I think, do not. Should be the opposition, because we have a free country. And we must work not only government agencies. Necessary, that was the choice of the people that the alternative was."

Woman: "Of course, do not put politicians in jail. If the state finds itself a democracy, there must be a plurality of opinion, should be the opposition. This is absurd, when former presidential candidates fall behind bars."

"The politicians? Well, if they did something bad, then of course. Crime is."

We see violations of the law and the Constitution.

Man: "I think it is necessary. But the politicians are now on trial, and those who are in power. We see violations of the law and the Constitution. Disappear people, journalists and opposition politicians. So, I think they should be brought to responsibility. "

Man: "Sure! During the wrong decisions against the people."

Man: "In prison, should sit criminals: If the policy — the criminals, they should sit. When they are not criminals and honest people, they should be involved in politics."

Man: "Politics — the expression of any opinion, personal, political, or as you call them. Sit in jail for it is unacceptable."

Man: "Looking for any crime. During the policy, in my opinion, no."

Man: "In a free and democratic country expressing their thoughts — this is normal. How can there be a prison for the politicians? Politicians can not be put in jail if they do not commit crimes. And if a politician who is in power, and by order of the people who are shot, then, of course, such a policy should be in prison. "

As it became known after the recording of this interview on the streets of Gomel, Minsk court Partyzansky following sentences participants of the peaceful rally on December 19:

Andrei Sannikov, received 5 years in the maximum security prison,

Oleg Hnedchyk — 3,5 years of imprisonment in a maximum security prison,

Ilya Vasilevich, Fedor Mirzayanav and Vladimir Eremenok — 3 years of imprisonment in a maximum security prison.


"Boris Kit for me almost god" — From a letter by Alexander Otroshchenkov

Let me remind you: we may be contacted at the following address: Minsk-5, PO Box 111, or to call on the answering machine: +375 17 2663952.

I want to thank everyone who has written or called us. As well as the relatives of prisoners who passed the letter to the editor to their loved ones.

Today, our gratitude Darya Korsak, which allowed the program "Freedom in the prisons" to quote some excerpts from the letters of her husband, a spokesman for the presidential candidate Andrei Sannikov, Olesya Otroshchenkov of Vitebsk colony. In late March, for participation in the events of December 19 Ales was sentenced to 4 years imprisonment in a strict regime.

Ales Atroschankau during the trial. March 2011.

Not so long ago, sometime after Easter, 30-year-old political prisoner Atroschankau received a postcard from Germany. Its author — a 100-year-old Belarusian enlightener and world-renowned scientist, designer of American rocketry, who has repeatedly visited and political prisoners — Borys Kit. Postcards with words of respect and support Boris Kit sent and other "hartyytsam" accused of the case on December 19 — a political prisoner Andrei Sannikov and Dmitry Bondarenko.

"Boris Kit for me almost a deity. I even tremble on his behalf," says Ales Atroschankau in a letter to his wife Dasha.

On the political prisoner support such an outstanding Belarusian very important for him and for his friends. By the way, Alesia letters to the Vitebsk colony comes up a lot.

"We have to write a lot of answers," said Ales Atroschankau.

And now some other excerpts from his correspondence with his wife Dasha.

"Hi, sweetie Dasha!

Your letter number 68 I was very pleased, but continue to be, please, more accurate in terms … I actually have everything here is good. I am not saying this to comfort you, but because it is the case in reality. Slowly abzhyvayusya. A little running around the stadium, played volleyball. Supposed to race and football. Furthermore, little sips post. And then in jail withered and feel like a real slug. So I will fix it. I will temper the spirit and improve agulnafizychnuyu training. "

But the record of the detachment, in which the distribution of political prisoner:

Missing here and decent, smart people

"As long as you have me for a long time did not receive letters, probably sinned by censors and mail.'s Not true. Long time I do not write letters — probably more than a week. I think this is due to the fact that most of the mental strength was spent on adaptation in the squad. Not that needed something from me if there were any difficulties. But, she know this area. Here you all for attention, many shops, someone has their kink, someone moral level falls short of Mother Teresa. okay, but it takes time to get used to. But do not worry: missing here and decent, smart people, very many have helped me with the original device and adaptation. "

The work on the zone:

"… Press writes all sorts of nonsense. No shoes I have not repaired. I enrolled in a sewing workshop and gave all sorts of things to sew. As I see it, I did not so far for them, the most valuable employee. So you need not worry, my hands are continue to grow at the wrong place, and I do not think that there is some force in the world, able to change that. "

About birds:

It is encouraging that over the area constantly circling seagulls

"It is encouraging that over the area constantly circling gulls. Perhaps this
is the soul freed prisoners. Gulls often come down here and tusyats. Feed them in the dining room is impossible. Want to find out whether you can feed them in other places. Whatever it was, but then the seagulls sit in our area is good. Seagulls — beautiful birds. Yet there are sparrows, but not many. Besides, our body is no land, but they are more like to hang out where you can freely lie in the dust and splash in pools, that is out of our sad case.

Still seen here Bullfinch. However, not for long, as long as the snow does not come down. I was pleased with it, too. Until then, I saw these birds at least five times, though, maybe less. But it seems to me, Bullfinch — blunt bird. The Vitebsk region in the winter cold dog, and they arrive here to spend the winter. And where they fly for the summer — and then think of scary. Another thing — the storks. In winter, fly to where the heat in the summer — go where no heat, where they are admired and idolized them. That's what I understand. A winter in Belarus, and then in the summer to fly to some Solovki … ugh! Although perhaps the birds thought. Otherwise, they would have all lived in Nice or in Cyprus and in general will not fly. (…) "

"The Belarusian prison. Past and Present"

In this section, we tell about the former Belarusian Jail, as well as their famous barman. Now we will talk about one of the oldest prisons in the Mogilev region — in Bobruisk.

Today, the building housed a two hundred year history of the detention center number 5. The walls of this firmly in mind, and the ranks of the army, and the groans of the prisoners. They were the "colonize" the fortress, unable to finish it. Many years ago, the brutal conditions in the prison Bobruisk mentioned Russian writer Alexander Herzen: "Let Siberia, even though it, but not this terrible prison on the Berezina river." Continues Andrew Belagubav.

Bobruisk fortress

Bastions of the fortress — fifteen minutes from the city's House of Communications. They are scattered over a vast territory. Abandoned. Destroyed by time, nature and people. On most security label: "Historical and cultural value." In the middle of the fortress — an ice palace. Its shape it resembles a flying saucer and of abandoned old buildings looks somehow even with the call.

The fortress began to build August 10, 1810 by order of the Russian autocrat Alexander I. Supervised construction project engineer, lieutenant-general, a German by birth, a native of the Duchy Gesen-Darmstadt, Count Carl Aperman.

Bobruisk fortress

"With the expected war with Napoleonic France, Alexander I and the War Department of the Russian Empire Bobruisk chose to build a fortress in the defense line on the west. Bobruisk fortress was built local serfs. Historians note that is fraught with them here and were killed from overwork. Fully Construction Bobruisk destroyed the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. New owners have left only the walls of the Jesuit church, which was rebuilt under tseyhgavz. destroyed the city and the wooden Orthodox Church. destroyed and Bobruisk citadel "- says researcher Bobruisk ago Alexander CHigir.

Erected walls thoroughly. Meter high walls that still confront desolation, as if grown in the ground. Inspect and touch two hundred starasvetchynu easy. It is not guarded. Although signs warn not to approach the buildings — may be landslides.

In one of the surviving bastions — Apermana tower — located remand number 5. Four months later he saw the old walls political prisoner and activist Artem Dubskiy. He was struck by a view of the tower:

Bobruisk fortress

"A very old building. Very chic inside, for there remained all the way, apparently, it was. That is two years old bricks and new bricks, which are trying to zashtukovvats holes and openings, it can not withstand the impact of climate and destroyed. Inside it in a very good condition. Outside, unfortunately, with reasons unknown to me, perhaps, that the local people or someone else spoil it, and he does not look very '

The first political prisoners Bobruisk fortress were the Decembrists.

For two hundred years before his release Artem Dubski Russian Emperor Alexander and 4 June 1811 decree ordered assume Bobruisk fortress complete the order.

In the war of 1812 has stood the four-month siege of the fortress of the Napoleonic military departments.

Bobruisk fortress

After the war, in a fortress located 9 Infantry Division of the Russian army. A group of local military developed a plan to arrest the Emperor, who intended to visit the castle in 1823. It was assumed at the conclusion of Alexander I to move to St. Petersburg, holding the emperor hostage. In the history of this plan is known as the "Bobruisk." He was suspended the leadership of the revolt. To suppress in St. Petersburg in December 1825 performances military revolutionaries Bobruisk fortress becomes a political prison. It nyavolyatstsa some of the Decembrists. Says Alexander CHigir:

"How many Decembrists were serving sentences in Bobruisk fortress, is unlikely to reliably tell who can. Historical sources provide confusing information. For participation in the Decembrist uprising of serving hard labor here. They were deprived of rank and nobility. And given hard labor. Following the Decembrists slave fortress at the will of Nicholas I in 1849 are the so-called petrashevtsy — supporters of the ideas of French social reformers. populists were next. "

Herzen: "Let Siberia, even though it, but not this terrible prison on the River Berezina"

We got information that the prisoners in the jail were whipped with rods, and slowly the prisoners to better recognize their guilt. They fed the prisoners very badly — in the morning bread and salt, a modest lunch in the afternoon and again in the evening bread and salt. In celebration could give three lumps of sugar.

Inhuman conditions of detention in prison Bobruisk mentioned Russian writer Alexander Gertsen:

"Let Siberia, even though it, but not this terrible prison on the Berezina river."

Found among the surviving fortifications prison, which contained the Russian revolutionaries of the 19th century, failed. There is no marks on the walls. Finally, each of the buildings could be a prison. Small window-slits, remained at large even lattice, dark dungeons.

Babruytsy know about the history of the slave fortress? Know something, they say, but a little bit:

Man: "I know that there were Decembrists in prison."

Man: "I know that sitting Decembrists. With built for Catherine."

"Well, there they sat for a long time. Said that Bobruisk fortress — worse than exile in Siberia."

"There was a sort of chamber in the form of eggs. And there was to be a very scary man."

In 1919, Polish troops occupy Bobruisk Pilsudski. Poles fortress converted into a concentration camp for prisoners of the Red Army. Here are some of the memories that have been preserved in the memorandum of the military and civilian prisoners Bobruisk fortress

"The conditions were terrible. I was interrogated twice a day. Whenever rudders and beaten with whips. Eysmont investigator Bill, helped him to the gendarmes. Bullying lasted 14 days," recalls the concentration camp inmate Haimovich.

Another prisoner fortress Giller VALSONNE reported: "In prison, I was stripped and beaten by goals naked body with whips."

Prisoner George Knish adds, "They brought in the gendarmerie, scoffed. Was beaten with whips by 40 strokes. Billie barrels of rifles. Ramrod beaten on his heels."

Before the Second World War, the fortress housed the Soviet military forces.

In 1941, the concentration camp here again — for Soviet prisoners of war and civilians. During its existence the Nazis killed about 80,000 people. These figures are falling Soviet historical sources. In the history of Bobruisk concentration camp known as number one-hundred and thirty first

"This period in the history of the fortress little studied. Official in historical information about the little information. But it should be noted that the Bobruisk fortress stands on the bones of the people who are serving their sentences and were killed," sums up Alexander CHigir.

After the Second World War, the fortress housed part of the Soviet army. Bobruisk is stationed headquarters of the Belarusian Military District. On one of the buildings preserved plaque with the inscription: "The historical and cultural value. Guardhouse (redesigned from the Jesuit church in 1742)." Non-residential building is still surrounded by a fence topped with barbed wire. Destroyed.

In 1961, the USSR Council of Ministers decided to strike out Bobruisk fortress from the list of monuments of architecture, since its building in the war experienced great destruction.

Now on the strength of the remaining 49 sites that require restoration.

At the end of the Second World War, a part of the citadel — Apermana tower — was surrounded by a high fence and organized a prison. From the 1960s, it houses already mentioned the detention center number 5. About this in another program "Freedom in the prisons."

With Belarusian prison poetry

Sergei Hmara

Somewhere iron door clanged,
Heart iron zbyazhalasya in com.

The glass in the windows suddenly zavoykali,
Deaf animal palivsya night groan.
Do you hear me! — No crying! — You have to be persistent!
At the heart of even hammered astsen.

Nachoy sky was clear … clear!
White, white — like milk!
Somewhere iron zatvorami gone.
Sadly zayrzhav horse in the barn.

The author of this poem — a political prisoner, poet and leader of the national liberation movement in Western Belarus, an activist of the Belarusian Society of schools Sergei Hmara (Real name Bruise).

The history of art and the conclusion of Sergei studied Clouds Sergei Ostrovtsov.

This man was sitting in Polish prisons, Soviet, and then another, and when the Germans. He died in exile in Canada in 1992 and has remained quite mysterious personality.

On his conclusion with the Polish authorities in 1930 in the concentration camp Kartuz Birch Hmara Sergey wrote:

She was beaten, tortured and abused.

"She was beaten, tortured and abused. Sitting seven days in a terrible underground dungeon, pulled up to the underside of byallya and barefoot on the ice tsementse. Sitting and other punishment cells. Wrote, but rather a contribution in the head poems about Bereza. Were the songs" Ballad of the Amaranth "" Oh, Birch, you, Birch!. "Then he nearly died of malignant sore throat. Lying in custody. Kobrin taken to hospital."

No one in Belarus does not know the biography of Sergei clouds as a writer Sergei Chigrin from Slonim, who published a book with the works Khmara.

Chigrin: "Served nearly eleven years in prison in his autobiography — a sbornichek" We ", released in 1949 — he wrote that" my schools were Lukishki, prisons in Slonim, Grodno, Pinsk, Brest, a concentration camp Kartuz Birch. "A the Soviets had sent him in 1940. he was arrested for nationalism. He stayed until the war started. "

Sergei Hmara nearly became those whom we call today in Belarus' political foot. " The Polish authorities have decided to take it to the service in the Polish army, ignoring that he was repeatedly arrested for political reasons. Sergei Khmara managed to extricate himself only because the earlier interrogation in defenzyve caused him injury. The poet himself later wrote about the army as a medical examination:

"In spite of the protests of the gendarmes forced me to undress, and a military doctor declared me worthy. Immediately pabarovy officer prydyaliv me somewhere Bygdashch to the regiment. Everything was cooked in advance. Then I filed that have balyachae ear and can not hear it (the result of a beating defenzyve in 1925). Vice-chief, badly tarnished nervous, screaming that I skimp on, and the doctor sent me to the command shell in Brest for the bride-with a specialist. "

Sergei Hmara wrote that because of this he did not get into the army and returned home:

"I was under arrest brought to Brest jail, and from there into the castle, and put the army. Gendarmes taken to the medical officer, who approved the broken ear in a mustache. Yeah based on that, I was declared unfit for military service, and a week later returned home."

Read more about the life of Sergei clouds you will learn from our upcoming programs.

"Prison and Health"

Tips doctors I.Bagdanavay

A graduate of the Minsk Medical Institute, MD Irina Bogdanova last years living in England in the county Berkshyr and running in there the center of alternative medicine. As her sister and sister-in-law of Andrei Sannikov rocket one of the founders of the public initiative «Free Belarus Now" in support of political prisoners, and the doctors it should excite the psychological and physical state to which the Belarusian authorities to bring the majority of the defendants in the case on December 19. How to behave to those with whom bullied power?

I offer you an excerpt of our conversation, which was conducted when Andrei Sannikov and Irina Khalip and other political prisoners were just waiting for trials.

Andrei Sannikov's sister, Irina Bogdanova, a doctor and his daughter Natalia Dana Christmas Carols

Bogdanov "If a person is in harmony with itself, it can withstand anything, no matter what the ordeal. Main thing — at some point to accept the situation and do everything possible to maintain his inner world. Certainly medytatsyya, of course, all sorts of search for self-expression. not withdraw into themselves. Speaking of my brother, the bad thing is that he is emotionally very reserved person. This is a good trait for a politician, a diplomat. But in the particular circumstances it is very bad for the health, even if the one does not have a tendency to certain diseases. Here there are reasons for concern.

Physical activity — the main way to protect against depression. In this sense, I am very concerned about Ira (Khalip). At the house arrest she can not get out of the four walls. It has no walks. In prison, at least an hour for this is permitted. According to an alternative medicine that a person can not go to the window, something that is not allowed to walk, that person is deprived of the ability to move — all of this is very ba
d. This is hard to imagine, but it is not necessary to Irina prohibited. One may enter into a depression.

My hope for Irina and Vladimir Prokofyevich that they are creative people and what they will write. They will pull it. For both of them it is very important. Olga Neklyaeva said that Vladimir Prokofievich writes. Irina mother said: writing. That writes like? How to blog? Ira — sharp publicist. For her, you will want it all at once worked. Long projects such as books — they are the best in the sense that you can work on them a year or two. So I feel bad for Ira. "

— I have heard that the relatives, the relatives of prisoners have a variety of emotional problems, depression, and worry about the fate of their children, husbands, brothers, sisters, grandchildren, even more than they do. What can you advise them?

You just need to straighten your shoulders and look up — the sky, the sun, the tops of the trees.

Bogdanova"Roots … There is a very good and easy way to deal with depression, which we simply forget. If a person is depressed, he starts to bend, drop shoulders. Should just straighten your shoulders and look up — the sky, the sun, the tops of the trees. Immediately improves mood, many things change in mood. All my patients with emotional problems doing it. course, each person requires an individual approach, but there are general guidelines: you tend to move from having contact with others and do not become isolated. Indeed shared problem — not so bad, and shared joy — joy doubled. Another very important point — do not lose faith, keep a sense of self-worth. It also helps.

It was Irina Bogdanova. As a representative of oriental medicine she considers health as the unity of mental and physical.

Commenting on the "freedom" to the last word of Andrei Sannikov, during the trial in relation to physical and psychological torture of terror applied to it in the KGB detention center, Dr. Bogdanov said he was very concerned about the possible implications of this statement for the brothers:

"I know that he is strong in spirit, so that only held his physical health. So I need to continue to fight to free him as soon as possible," emphasized the sister of politics. "

Irina Bogdanova also said that dealing with international litigation against Lukashenko, one of the initiators of which it has been gradually moving and that the international human rights organization «Amnesty International» urged governments to address the threat of torture, and applied to the Belarusian political prisoner and presidential candidate Andrei Sannikov.

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