Society members: former Minister of Labour of Belarus Alexander Sasnou and chairman of the NGO "Women's Independent Democratic Movement" Lyudmila Petina.
The economic feasibility of raising the retirement age?
Valery Karbalevich"Ukraine has decided to gradually raise the retirement age for women to 60 years. And now Belarus remains a country, probably, with the world's lowest retirement age for women. Is there a socio-economic feasibility for similar solutions in Belarus? "
Alexander Sasnou"This decision peraspela, it had to take a long time. After all, there is a tendency to increase the number of pensioners and reduce the number of people who work. And all the more difficult to maintain the state retirees. So to make this decision sooner or later have to come. "
Lyudmila Petina"The fact that women retire earlier than men, violates gender equality. In all European countries, men and women are going to retire at the same age.
The current situation with retirement is bad for women. After all, they usually make their careers later than men. This is due to their reproductive function and gender stereotypes. Women get a good working status after about 45 years. And it turns out that in this status, they are working short time.
A significant proportion of women after reaching 55 years of age continues to work. After all, that pension paid by Belarus, to live is impossible. But when you reach retirement age woman usually spends one worker status that she had. Often, women with higher education had to go to work as a cleaner, cloakroom and others.
Therefore it is necessary to raise the retirement age for women. But the system must be flexible. It is necessary to make exceptions for women working in hard work, having more than three children. For the latter to be the right choice. "
Karbalevich"Is it appropriate here to talk about equality of women and men?"
Sasnou"I want to note that in Belarus, women live longer than men. And it turns out that women receive a pension three times longer than men. "
How would respond to the increase in the retirement age Belarusian women?
Karbalevich"How would react to such a decision Belarusian women? Many of them work, being in the retirement age. Maybe they normally would view such a decision? "
Petina"Of course, the first reaction will be negative. After all, much of the women at the same time, working, and receives salary and pension. But public opinion must be prepared to make this decision, to show the benefits for women. The problem is that we have a closed society when making important decisions with people nobody advised.
Exclusion need to do more for those women who are in poor health. According to our research, more than 70% of women have persistent disease. "
Sasnou"I do not know the opinion polls on the subject. But I think that different women in different ways to react to this decision. Those women who have a good working status, position, salary, will accept such a decision is positive. But those women who work on the manual workers react badly. And we have a lot in the country.
You need to educate citizens on issues of the pension system. But I think, as usual, the government will introduce the measure by force. "
Karbalevich"There would be whether such an unpopular decision Belarusian authorities? The question about him is not often discussed in the Ministry of Labour and Social Security. But the political decision was made, because it is unpopular.
When three years ago was canceled, most social benefits, the decision met albeit negatively, but still. Even on the rating of Lukashenko, it is not affected. It is possible that a decision on the retirement age people will take the same? "
Petina"Of course, before the presidential election this topic will not touch anybody. But I think that after the elections, it will be done soon. "
Sasnou"Also I think that in general, this decision will be made public peace. But the economic situation is forcing the authorities to do something with the pension system. "